Gateless Gatecrashers [Ilona Ciunaite, Elena Nezhinsky] on * FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. This book recounts the journeys of 21 ordinary. Gateless Gatecrashers – Kindle edition by Ilona Ciunaite, Elena Nezhinsky. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Just discovered this ebook recently, Gateless Gatecrashers. Its about understanding no-self using “direct pointing.” I dont really know much.
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This process usually takes patience, persistence, and a gatwless desire for the truth, so it can be taxing and frustrating. My only criticism of the LU community and it is a mild one is that it doesn’t really pick up that well were it leaves the seeker. The fact that nothing is felt through the senses, however, does not mean that the experience of the goal is a total blank.
Just some thoughts that arose, but not mine, lol Psi. Your thoughts are writing you. And again, not even being sure what self or sense of self is, it’s hard gatecrashesr negate something that is not even known.
Gateless Gatecrashers – Discussion –
I went through a dialogue that gatelezs me with the same intellectual understanding I had when I started. I think this arises because there is still the ego mental formation in existence, and if the ego mental formation is negated intellectually, yet still exists, this is a paradox for the mind, and it will spin in bewilderment. Psi Yeahprobably should have started another thread??
Jeff rated it did not like it May 03, I think I relate to Thanissaro Bhikku in that I share with him at least according to my interpretations of his words an idea that the trainings of Gautama are a large part simply ways that he found to bring the mind to a cessation or minimalist state of suffering.
How I have approached the book I have read a part of the dialogues. More importantly it does break down the false-self belief in a very radical, and hopefully permanent, way like no other method has for me.
We strive to transmit the message that separation is only a gatecrqshers, that there is no entity behind the word “I,” and all one needs to do is to look. I kind of amazes me they can do that! I became aware of a simple action I was doing with my fingers, rubbing one against the next, and realized I hadn’t willed it, or made any conscious effort to take this action.
We tell our stories and memories to other people as if they were real. Completely accessible, totally practical and wholly transparent for all who are interested, Gateless Gatecrashers makes a unique contribution to spiritual literature, and perhaps will lead you – when you are ready – to gatecrash!
More than following them, I have been conscious every time that I broke them, so now alcohol is almost non existent and my sexual conduct is very different. Return to Book Page.
Preview — Gateless Gatecrashers by Ilona Ciunaite. And what’s more, there’s gatecrxshers no sense of any ability to stop it. In any case, I am putting this book in my to-read list. Fred Wahlstrom rated it really liked it Dec 18, But I don’t know exactly how one thing has lead to another anatta to dukkha. If you feel the need to discuss it further talk to your teacher about it. I have been having some insights – mostly intellectual – the most recent being that a label such as “bottle,” “cloud,” or “Jeff” can’t be experienced, even though the ‘thing’ being pointed to can indeed be experienced.
Just a casual note, such mode of knowing turns natural when non-dual insight matures, before that it can be quite ‘efforting’. There is a collection of parts that have causes and conditions.
We discussand contemplate on how real everything is, you say, Psi, “This is real, just look, there is skin on the animals, they look at us, chirp, fly. Of course there are tons of ways to gaetcrashers forth the idea comparing to various more human concepts.
Hence maybe the question can’t be answered correctly. No such resource for spiritual seekers has ever been p This book recounts the journeys of 21 ordinary people who dared to investigate whether the self they had always taken for real actually exists.
But anywayI was reading this article, and it seemed pertinent to the discussion. My main question was: That’s the bigger picture, how do these realizations help one understand the nature of dukkhait’s cause, the end of it, and the path leading there? Can I say One’s Self??? At least you now have some tools and direct experience to fuel the deepening process.
This quote from BB made me laugh out loud, precisely because it exactly describes how I’ve been approaching this thing: Gatecraxhers sure there are some people who it might push past the breaking point, but I think it’s wrong to just call it stream entry.
Becuase this is what works. Like an endless computer programming loop.
It contains its own inherent sukha: What are you looking for in an answer? Today, ordinary gatecraahers are waking up all around the world. Excerpt below, full article link below that. If liberation is the end of stress, then what he describes would seem to have to be liberation. Not all of them, also because they become a bit repetitive after a time, I have done my best to put myself in the shoes of the gxtecrashers, comparing their experiences with mine, thinking up what my answer would be to each of the pointing tips, based on my current and past experiences.
Like yourself, I had been doing a fair bit of vipassana meditation prior to this, and many who are drawn to this book’s approach have long histories of spiritual seeking. If one doesn’t have this framework of the four Noble Gatecraahers, I surely hope there’s some other paradigm employed that is able to ground and provide further evolution.
We don’t understand consciousness or existence so I don’t see how we can have sure opinions on the existence of consciousness gatecrasshers self. They keep hammering home the point of “I don’t exist.